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Posted by mhb 1 day ago

Delta’s Biscoff cookies were supposed to be temporary(www.seriouseats.com)
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mattgoupil 1 minute ago|
I first ran into speculoos in the south of France where they ground up and in all sorts of things, especially cheesecake crust. All of a sudden I saw "speculoos" every where. How it jumped from Belgium to Nice escapes me.
SoftTalker 5 hours ago||
> a peanut shortage prompted Delta, then America’s fourth-largest airline, to seek an alternative onboard snack

I never knew this was the reason. I had assumed that airlines stopped serving peanuts as an accomodation to the increasing number of people with peanut allergies.

SOLAR_FIELDS 3 hours ago|
It's both. That's why Southwest stopped, for instance. Literally just opening a small bag of peanuts around people who aren't eating peanuts is enough to bring someone with a severe allergy into anaphylactic shock.
rtkwe 3 hours ago|||
The American Academy of Allergy Asthma and Immunology disagrees, which I'm surprised by and totally thought they could too. Someone linked to this in another thread.

> What can occur is that the patient smells an allergen, and that smell triggers a strong memory of a past reaction or the fear of having a reaction and signs and symptoms of panic may occur – including an increase in heart rate, tight breathing, flushing of the skin and nervousness, all of which could be mistaken as signs and symptoms of anaphylaxis. ... While smells can linger in the air, the allergen proteins do not, which is why smelling a food will not trigger anaphylaxis.

Interestingly some allergens like those in shellfish /can/ aerosolize in a boiling pot, however according to them peanuts cannot. I can still absolutely see airlines reacting to passengers thinking they're having attacks and eliminating peanut snacks out of caution and to avoid the issues even an imagined attack can cause on a flight. That and the risk of surface contamination probably?

https://www.aaaai.org/tools-for-the-public/conditions-librar...

edit: dang scooped by 5 minutes.

aksss 2 hours ago|||
Yes, the panic attack thing is pretty real. Know someone that had a severe allergic reaction, basically started choking to death, paramedics involved, all that. The experience imprinted itself deeply, such that she's deathly afraid of it happening again, and gets triggered with panic attacks. She's like two years on from the experience and through a lot of work she's much better, but it's pretty crazy how broadly it has impacted her life as an anxiety disorder. She knows it's not logical, but describes it as a fear of death and of a spiraling nature such that if she can't arrest it in the moment it compounds very badly, which reinforces the phenomenon - panicking about panicking. Anxiety over a panic reaction. So to be clear, it's not an allergic reaction she's experiencing but trauma from one in the past.
doubled112 2 hours ago|||
When I told my doctor about my oldest having a reaction to a chocolate bar with peanuts, one of his first questions was "did he react before he knew it had peanuts?"

He's pretty anxious about food in general, so it actually made a lot of sense.

estearum 1 hour ago||||
I'm not sure it's fair to describe that fear response as "not logical."
jimbokun 2 hours ago|||
Yeah, if I almost died from something I imagine I would have the same response.
Den_VR 2 hours ago|||
I think the key part is the _boiling pot_.
rtkwe 2 hours ago||
Yeah that's definitely the issue with the shellfish. I'm just more surprised the allergen is sufficiently different from the smell that they are disconnected in peanuts.
Den_VR 2 hours ago||
I suspect that peanut boiling in a pot would also be problematic. The oil and water vapor and would provide a carrier.
rtkwe 2 hours ago||
I also suspect there's not much reason to boil peanuts in water outside of the very specific (and delicious) snack called boiled peanuts. I can't really think of any other dish that uses them as a normal ingredient. Most of the time you'd toast them in oil for dishes or use peanut oil afaik.
felixg3 2 hours ago||
In Indian Cuisine, peanuts are sometimes boiled, and are indeed delicious
coryrc 3 hours ago||||
That is not true:

https://www.aaaai.org/allergist-resources/ask-the-expert/ans...

SOLAR_FIELDS 3 hours ago||
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Homework shows you are right.
MaintenanceMode 2 hours ago||||
I took a flight inside Mexico (Mexico City to Oaxaca) recently and the in-flight service snack was bagged peanuts. I was so amused, it was almost shocking to see. And, good news, no one died, but I assume if it was on a plane in US there probably would've been a strong emotional reaction by at least one person. It's good to know that the "Airborne anaphylaxis" is not a thing.
cpursley 1 hour ago||
Many nations are finally pushing back on Americanism and finding themselves again.
jcims 46 minutes ago|||
My buddy's gf is allergic to peas.

She visited a friend's house and started getting an itchy throat immediately. Friends knew of her allergy and obviously hadn't prepared any.

Turned out the dog food had peas in it and the bag was open on the other end of the house in the kitchen. (And a supporting role from whatever the dog had slobbered on in the living room)

Sometimes it blows me away how sensitive our bodies can be.

adzm 4 hours ago||
Have you heard of Biscoff spread? It's kinda like peanut butter except, it's made out of cookies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BZsIY6PUPU (might not be sfw)
jldugger 4 hours ago||
Yea, I once brought some to game night, and another gamer brought actual Biscoff cookies. Then a third person put them together into a sandwich cookie which I thought was equal parts funny and violating some kind of Kosher rule "Do not seethe a kid in it's mother's milk" I invented in my head.
Waterluvian 3 hours ago|||
We’ve strayed further. Sometimes we take the meat of a chicken, bathe it in its eggs, dip it in bread crumb, and shape it in the form of its ancestors.

Dino nuggies are worth it though…

jimbokun 2 hours ago||
Getting close to oyakodon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyakodon

generallee5686 3 hours ago|||
I think you can actually buy biscoff sandwich cookies that are essentially this.
Cu3PO42 3 hours ago||
You can! And they're delicious.
AntiqueFig 12 minutes ago|||
I use that often as a filling for snickerdoodles, it's quite good.
spyspy 1 hour ago|||
If you care about your health at all, do NOT buy a jar of trader joe's cookie butter, or their cookie butter ice cream...
tiahura 7 minutes ago|||
Yes because I read the article.
microsoftedging 12 minutes ago|||
Oh my
cinntaile 1 hour ago|||
Slightly related but you can crumble these cookies and use them as a (cheese)cake bottom. It's nice.
burnte 2 hours ago|||
ChocZero makes a zero sugar version of the speculoos cookie butter and it's amazing.
pinkmuffinere 1 hour ago|||
lol how could this not be sfw??? I can't open right now because I'm at work but I'm so curious haha
zarzavat 1 hour ago|||
Anything is possible on the Internet.
munificent 1 hour ago|||
You can spread it on anything. ANYTHING.
Waterluvian 3 hours ago|||
Wife got the same thing but it’s Oreo cookie spread. The stuff is crack.
FLeXMurphy 2 hours ago||
This is usually the first thing I think of when I think of f**InG BiScoFf.
c0rruptbytes 5 hours ago||
Claire Saffitz makes cinnamon rolls with these cookies as the inner cinnamon filling, they’re so good with the spice
satiated_grue 3 hours ago|
They make a great graham-cracker style crust for a skyr cake.
jmpman 4 hours ago||
I'd read that there are a few snack items resistant to GLP-1 induced food aversions, when I was on a GLP-1, Biscoff cookies felt like one of them. I may have an Amazon scheduled delivery of Biscoff, which every month, I intend to cancel, and somehow forget to follow through.
tombert 3 hours ago|
I'm not on GLP-1s, but I am on metformin [1] which my wife says has similar food aversion properties to the GLPs, and for me I've noticed virtually anything with peanut butter I can still eat a nearly infinite quantity of. One of the worst things that has ever happened to me was finding out that peanut butter fudge is ridiculously easy to make.

[1] Off label for weight loss. My insurance wouldn't cover GLP-1s, and metformin is out of patent and super cheap, and I read that at least some people have had good success using it for weight loss. I am fortunately one of those happy few.

darksim905 2 hours ago|||
When we say food 'aversion', we're implying that a drug like metformin makes you not want that thing, yes?

I've found when I take metformin, and then eat food later, I enjoy the food so much more as a craving/satiation thing. Especially steaks. But I'm not quite sure why that is. I can't say that what peers have told me about metformin is to help with weight loss, but supposedly the benefits/effects on the body are generally positive.

tombert 2 hours ago||
In my case metformin makes it so I just have no appetite, and certain foods are outright kind of revolting to me now. I can't do fried chicken while I'm on it.
collinstevens 3 hours ago||||
please delete your comments, this is an infohazard for us on glp-1s
tombert 3 hours ago||
I shouldn't have to suffer through this alone.
cyberpunk 2 hours ago||||
One extreme option if you wanna kick the ‘butter — I ate a small amount of peanut butter immediately before a severe case of norovirus kicked in (48 hours of purge every 15-20 minutes) — can’t even be in the same room with the stuff without flashbacks anymore. Even typing that out made feel rough.

Maybe there’s some way to de-program such strong associations but seems like a way to kick a bad habit..

tombert 2 hours ago||
I have the same reaction to strawberry ice cream. Not actual strawberries, those are still good, but the flavor that candy companies think strawberries taste like.

I got very sick fairly shortly after eating a bunch of strawberry ice cream when I was a kid. 25 years later and I still can't stand the stuff.

criddell 2 hours ago|||
How cheap is super cheap? Semaglutide is something like $70 a month now from some online sellers.
tombert 2 hours ago||
Three month supply of metformin is on the order of ~$17 from Amazon pharmacy, without insurance, though obviously depends on the dosage: https://pharmacy.amazon.com/METFORMIN-850-MG-TAB/dp/B0842996...
sasaf5 5 hours ago||
Please, make sure you try these at least once in your life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculoos
thenthenthen 3 hours ago|
As well as ‘taaitaai’, the chewy variety ( https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taaitaai )
Dries007 5 hours ago||
As a Belgian I still dislike this new branding.
throw7 3 hours ago||
If it's any help, the company denies that Delta came up with the name, but doesn't offer an explanation to the origin of the name itself.

It's also funny how they deny that the original deal with Delta was only a temporary short term deal, but that it was always a longterm deal.

tunk 4 hours ago||
Same.
Insanity 4 hours ago||
It is at least easier to pronounce for non-Dutch speakers. Here in Toronto, there are a few places that put "Speculaas/Speculoos (Biscoff)" on their menu, e.g: https://www.columbuscafe.com/en/recette/cafe-latte-de-lours-....

But to be honest, as a Belgian living abroad, I'm just happy I can find it at all lol. Was surprised to even find the 'crunchy' spread in my local supermarket.

isqueiros 1 hour ago||
Huh. That would actually annoy me because speculaas and speculoos are two different things.
Exoristos 4 hours ago||
Soon after these became ubiquitous in grocery stores, the manufacturer stopped using butter. I don't buy them anymore.
geodel 3 hours ago||
Wow. Seems people do love it. My thought was always there could be no cheaper or worse snack that airlines can offer
temp_praneshp 3 hours ago||
I moved to America in July 2011, first delta flight in August that year, and have pretty much not bought any other cookie since.

When I was young and shameless back then I would even ask for an extra one! My wife hates the cookie though, so probably in your boat

sv123 29 minutes ago|||
Yeah I'm so confused in the comments, these things suck.
thenthenthen 3 hours ago|||
Grinding them up as bottom for cheesecake is heaven!
AntiqueFig 10 minutes ago||
Or as a lemon pie crust it's awesome as well!
gnarcoregrizz 3 hours ago||
same. biscoff is loathsome
urbandw311er 45 minutes ago|
This article is kind of one-sided – it consistently makes claims and then has to admit, in brackets, that Lotus disputes them.
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