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Posted by smilelamp 2 hours ago

Why are we even doing all this?(terrytao.wordpress.com)
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dist-epoch 1 hour ago|
So we have the Fields medal, awarded for making "progress" in math.

Now we are told explaining, understanding things, asking new questions is more important than proving things. So where is the math community medals/awards for this job?

DevKoala 1 hour ago||
> dreaming that one day an unfeeling corporate robot[1] will burn a rainforest to compile a list of 700 highly obscure barely-readable facts that might be true that nobody can understand as part of a marketing gimmick to raise hype for an IPO

The climate effect argument against AI is so intellectually dishonest. It’s the same as saying that Tao is on the side of stopping the advancement of Cancer research.

I thought the people clowning him were dumb, but the people arguing for either side are really fighting on a mud pit.

cdelsolar 1 hour ago||
oh stop it
sublinear 1 hour ago||
> This is a guest post by Rikab Gambhir.

Very much worth noting for those about to read this! haha I got a couple of paragraphs in and shook my head.

ahnick 1 hour ago||
All the nihilism in the AI space is so tiresome. We have a tool now that can accelerate the technological development of our species and actually reach for the stars! How exciting! All these ruminations and lamentations about what it means to be human are downright laughable to people on the front lines of war, living in abject poverty, etc. "Oh, to be so lucky!", I'm sure they'd say.

The luddites and doomers should do the world a favor and go establish a commune in rural Alaska, then they can be happy and the rest of us can get back to building and playing with amazing technology!

happytoexplain 1 hour ago||
It's rationalism, not nihilism.

The luddites were rational.

Telling people to fuck off and go away when they were here first is hideous. You should be humiliated. You should feel unwelcome.

ahnick 1 hour ago|||
No, it's nihilism.

The luddites were not rational.

Telling people they should be humiliated and that they should feel unwelcome is hideous.

I didn't tell people to fuck off. I told them to go do what they want to do and we'll do what we want to do. That's called a win/win.

cdelsolar 1 hour ago|||
No one is telling them that, unless they're the ones starting the fight
crassglassass 1 hour ago||
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Apreche 2 hours ago||
I’m not doing it. Why are you?
FLeXMurphy 2 hours ago||
It's a nice rant that I think will become more common until everyone burns out and one important realization dawns upon them: the corporations doing these things don't really care about your plight, suffering, etc. You can write thousands of books using this kind of tongue-in-cheek-but-really-angry language, and they'll just laugh it off. Felix Reisenberg will make a new post about something he's doing with Claude, Boris will make a tweet and everyone will rush to turn it into LLM-generated images so they can post on their LinkedIn for their bosses to measure their engagement KPIs, and we'll forget about the rants.
kderbyma 2 hours ago||
So if you are suggesting that life is now meaningless at status quo, it suggests that life will find new meaning....perhaps it will come in the form of a realisation that if corporations are in no ones interest, perhaps the better life is the one fighting against meaninglessness through our own redefinitions of noble pursuits...perhaps the most noble pursuit will become war against companies and executives in a post-modern religious crusade to reclaim some purpose in ones life. Perhaps murder is not a problem when you murder companies
happytoexplain 2 hours ago|||
What if the rants slowly transition into violence?
Animats 1 hour ago|||
"Data center death threats."[1]

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/12/politics/data-center-backlash...

steve1977 2 hours ago|||
When, not if...
TheOtherHobbes 2 hours ago|||
That's the point - why are we doing this?

Of all the things we could be doing, why are we doing this?

Is it collective mental illness? Economic hysteria? A cult of virtual personality?

It's simultaneously irrational, obsessive, ecologically and politically catastrophic, and all-consuming - none of which are good things.

bobson381 2 hours ago|||
It's the same process that has been running - creation of complexity as a dissipative structure - but now with even less friction. Some say we'll transcend, I think we're spiraling into the language-navel of cartesian dualist logical positivist insanity.
mlsu 1 hour ago||
I love the dissipative structure framing. It's the only logical explanation for all of this.

Datacenters in space are visionary -- they are maximally energy rate dense and they expand the area of energy absorption. Might be 100 years too early but that is where we are headed, after we turn all of the available biosphere of earth into computronium, that is.

The only superior technology left would be von Neumann probes.

krapp 2 hours ago|||
> That's the point - why are we doing this?

> Of all the things we could be doing, why are we doing this?

Money. Capitalism. It's all a fucking grift. Always has been.

If you thought AI was going to usher in a post scarcity golden age of infinite wealth where all disease, hunger, want and inequality are solved and everyone gets to live their lives purely for pleasure and intellectual pursuit, where the Eschaton is in their Heaven and all is right in the world, and humanity spreads out amongst the stars as beings of transcendent posthuman machine intellect or some shit you read in a sci-fi book then congratulations, you're the mark.

none_to_remain 1 hour ago|||
Why the hell would I want or expect a corporation to care about my plight?
fwip 1 hour ago||
I don't think this essay was written to appeal to the emotions of Sam Altman.
micromacrofoot 1 hour ago||
...for money

if I had guaranteed access to housing, healthcare, and food I'd stop immediately

BirAdam 1 hour ago|
So, would most people, and this would mean that very little housing would be built, very little health care provided, and very little food grown or harvested.
micromacrofoot 1 hour ago||
well I'd be willing to help build housing, provide health care, and grow food as needed given the stability it provides

right now my contract is more or less "we'll keep paying you if you continue providing us with the arbitrary value we require" which is certainly more difficult to reckon with

arjie 1 hour ago|
Unlikable text. Just a rant with the usual “corporations” socialism-slop. Terry Tao’s blog rapidly diminishing in quality. I didn’t think that the way machines would approach top mathematics is to transform top mathematicians into boring Redditors who eagerly retweet other annoying Redditors.
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