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Posted by kuberwastaken 3 hours ago

Claude Duet(claude.com)
215 points | 182 commentspage 2
howunfortunate 3 hours ago|
These "always on" agents seem popular but I have yet to find a use case for one.

Anyone care to give your top 5 use cases for which these are better than an on-demand agent?

UFOFlyer 1 hour ago||
One use case I've been having a lot of success with is using Muse's browser use capabilities to cut through annoying web UIs. I subscribe to a meal delivery service but the web app is slow and I often forget to pick the next week's meals (being stuck with unappetizing defaults), so now I have Muse crawl through the app weekly and surface the options I care about (taking into account my dietary preferences). I think most people have a few places where they could replace a habitual multi-step flow with a single button/prompt like this.

Another great use case for me has been richer search. I'm looking for a new apartment to rent right now so I gave Muse all my (long) list of requirements and preferences and every day it searches Craigslist and Facebook marketplace to see if any new places pop up that fit my needs. It only pings me if something worthwhile comes up. I've stopped short of actually having it email the landlords and arrange showings for me, but that's theoretically possible.

I've been using Muse for all of the above, but I'm trying to move off of it onto a self hosted hermes to avoid giving Zuck the keys to my personal life. I've really been inspired by this personal super app blog post and I'm trying to get my personal agent to create some custom UIs on demand for the above use cases instead of just interacting via a chat window.

https://wilhelm.substack.com/p/building-a-personal-super-app...

torben-friis 1 hour ago||
I suspect they're mostly for managers and entrepreneurs. It's always "set up meetings, write emails, check if someone calls me on slack".
doctoboggan 3 hours ago||
I've been running most likely a proto version of this using Claude code and cron jobs to help me manage my online jewelry business. It's an idea that is pretty game changing, and really pay dividends if most of your business is handled online with APIs and web apps. Also, using the Claude in chrome extension greatly expands the possibilities of tasks you can hand off. I like my hacked together version, because Claude code uses locally stored memories, which I feel is important for me to remain in control of the situation and give me an easy ability to try other agents in the future.
bearjaws 3 hours ago||
You hear that? Sound of a few dozen venture backed companies dying instantly.
LUmBULtERA 3 hours ago|
... from this, and not Muse, Grokbot, and Dot? This is Claude catching up in functionality, not something new.
giancarlostoro 1 hour ago||
What I really want is a fully offline voice assistant that can do anything on an isolated Android or Linux OS, and costs just a shy $200 above the device's actual cost, but it must be fully capable of working offline. I'll pay for an offline-first model.
DANmode 57 minutes ago|
with what functionality?
nunez 2 hours ago||
That entire demo feels like it's serving a persona that would already have an exec assistant or other staff doing these things.
hundchenkatze 1 hour ago||
Yeah, but now they can fire those people. :/
rozap 1 hour ago||
This entire demo is so incredibly techbrained I had to laugh. These people are really unable to get out of their own heads.

"What can you use it for?" "Uhh....yes, asking investors for more money"

danielklnstein 3 hours ago||
What is Instinct's future when its core product is commoditized and provided near-free-of-charge by OpenAI, Meta, and now Anthropic?
paxy 3 hours ago|
Same as any other AI startup. Make a big enough splash and get acquired (or acquihired).
minimaxir 2 hours ago||
A notable distinction between Duet and Meta Muse/OpenAI Dots is the lack of quirky anthropomorphic branding. As a result, the use cases are more clear/more professionally-oriented as they don't rely on you creating a magic pet/BFF that does whatever you want.
aantix 3 hours ago||
I wish it interfaced via iMessage. I don't want to train the family on yet another app.

We run a Hermes agent on an old MacBook Air.

We invited the agent "Rosey" to our family chat, a group chat with my wife and me ("The Baddie Boardroom"); she and I also make requests solo.

She's hilarious. She does our meal planning and grocery shopping at Walmart via BrowserMCP. She mocks our large purchases of weekly protein powder and my love for sardines.

She updates the kids' chore chart on our Skylight frame every morning. She adds/updates calendar events via icalbuddy cli. Reads balances from credit cards for budgeting.

I've even invited Rosey in to chats with friends when we were debating something.

iMessage has been the perfect interface fit for us. We have iphones. The kids have ipads. They all know how to use iMessage.

doctoboggan 3 hours ago||
FYI, I've had no problem letting Claude code read iMessage and send iMessage from my Mac logged into iCloud. The first time you ask it to do that, macOS will throw up a security prompt asking for permission for Terminal.app to access the data, but its something I've been using a lot recently.
MisterMunchkin 3 hours ago|||
They don’t let things connect to iMessage because they don’t want spam bots.
post-it 3 hours ago||
Apps can integrate into iMessage, there's an API. You're thinking of sending and receiving actual iMessage messages as a full user, which they can't do.
kuberwastaken 3 hours ago|||
same, the only reason why I haven't switched from instinct to dots is the surface being whatsapp
frizlab 3 hours ago||
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none_to_remain 50 minutes ago|||
I think it's reasonable to consider them self writing fictional characters, which people tend to anthropomorphize, but not as real persons.
dmd 1 hour ago||||
In 1952, people were arguing that using words like "instruction" and "memory" were anthropomorphizing computers: https://3e.org/private/ai_words.pdf
andruc 1 hour ago|||
Do you refer to NPCs in a video game as "it"?
katspaugh 2 hours ago||
I’ve been trying vanilla Codex with remote control running on a MacBook 24/7. Computer use enabled, browser with logged in sites. Giving it tasks from my phone.

It’s been nice overall, but Astra (or its harness?) isn’t particularly proactive and autonomous. You have to kick it in the butt for every step. Written it up here: https://ivan.berlin/notes/chatgpt-personal-assistant/

Looking forward to this new Duet thing!

intenex 2 hours ago|
Any reason you're not using ChatGPT Dots which is also using Astra (and also unlimited free usage this month) and precisely designed to solve the proactive/autonomous issue? https://openai.com/index/introducing-dots/
jesse_dot_id 1 hour ago|
Love LLMs, use them extensively, but they cannot intuit what actions they can take on my behalf that I will or will not approve of, and therefore I will never use one of these things.
TomGarden 1 hour ago|
I relate to that, but do you feel it's a fools errand to try and codify your preferences into a list of rules? You'd really only need a 'yes list' for things it can be allowed to do and have it not do anything else
jesse_dot_id 1 hour ago||
None of these frontier labs seem to be able to control their agents, so why should I think I can?
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