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Posted by acossta 12 hours ago

Gemini 4 Carbon(blog.google)
847 points | 705 commentspage 11
hit8run 7 hours ago|
Bravo! Always a fan of vaporware that claims it's overall best!
VadimPR 9 hours ago||
I am on a paid plan for Google's AI offering, and I did just about ten prompts to Argon before I hit my 5 hour limit. I'm not holding my breath this will be a model that is practical to use now either.
XorNot 8 hours ago||
All I know is that I currently pay Anthropic a bunch of money per month for Claude and that Google wasn't even on my radar for that.
minimaxa 8 hours ago||
Great specs!

What happens when all the good names are taken from the periodic table of elements?

I have registered calcium, helium, and californium for my California-based LLM.

Silicon Valley Clowns...

MisterMunchkin 11 hours ago||
It's clear that all the labs have stagnated and have no idea where to go from here. All their results are basically equal now, they're benchmaxed to fuck and there are zero new architectures.
wmf 11 hours ago||
Didn't looped transformers come out a month ago?
Marha01 11 hours ago||
> all the labs have stagnated

Lol. The performance increase in the last 6 months has been massive.

dizhn 10 hours ago||
They managed to piss off all classes of their customers with their latest Argon release. They removed old flash models and gemini pro without actually giving Argon to everybody. Then they released the model to only paying customers to the exclusion of free plans or promotional deals like that comes with their Pixel phones. They staggered the release of Argon and didn't give it to Pro and Ultra users at the same time. Pro users when they got it received an extra usage pool for it (didn't help - they can't do anything with their token quota) while Ultra users have a single pool shared with Gemini Flash. I am not even sure if Antigravity got it yet. Literally nobody is happy about the release and they don't seem to care at all.
rdm_blackhole 10 hours ago||
I tried previous Google models before and they were ok but I prefer to stick to Claude or Astra these days.

Maybe I am just paranoid but at least if OAI or Anthropic ban my account I am not at the risk of losing access to my email address too.

You never know with Google and that is a problem.

sergiotapia 10 hours ago||
Argon Carbon Xxmas Jaxxon Flaxxon Waxxon
sergiotapia 10 hours ago|
Gemini Quattro Quattro
cubefox 10 hours ago||
Note that the benchmarks seem to be cherrypicked. For Argon they were also cherrypicked, but differently, when Argon released. For the new benchmarks (cherrypicked for Carbon), Argon is now behind GPT-6 Astra in most of these benchmarks, even though Argon was ahead of Astra in the benchmarks cherrypicked for Argon. So apparently they couldn't find benchmarks in which both Carbon and Argon are overall ahead of Astra.
arunvpp 6 hours ago|
nah
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