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Posted by kuberwastaken 20 hours ago

We're releasing the weights of Mistral Large 4(mistral.ai)
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jiehong 20 hours ago|
That's really great! Congratulations to everyone working at Mistral!

Now, perhaps Kimi 3.1 is missing from the benchmarks, and Deepseek 4.1 Flash is still has impressive!

Krishansubudhi 7 hours ago||
I am curious about the comparisons. One thing I would like to see is score vs speed and cost. I don't know how big glm and kimi models are and what are their speed and cost. So I don't know if comparisons are apple or apple.
impossiblefork 11 hours ago||
Very nice. I always expected it to beat z.ai's model by at least a little bit, since it's so similar and that it would be slightly behind Kimi. Maybe this can change with better post-training, but it's great to go from not having a model in this size class to making something competitive with z.ai, who of course have made several good large models.

A first step on a trip which will hopefully go quite far.

novaRom 17 hours ago||
It looks specialized models of 27B to 52B active size are currently state of the art.

I think we will not see any significant increase of that numbers in next 4 - 5 years.

Does MoE depth justify itself to be stored and served as "one" model for particular tasks like agentic coding vs same active params non-MoE model?

0xjosephx10 13 hours ago||
In fact only weights available is still better than the closed llms. We can check neurons and confirm that the model is not malicious. However we still need to develop methods to confirm the models that are being served are matching those whose weights we can observe.
risphere 20 hours ago||
It's great that Europe finally has a good open-weights model.
Muromec 20 hours ago||
I see the logo of my company in this picture and I don't have it my harness dropdown. I guess they hallucilied (vibe truthed?) the list just a little bit.
rampida_com 4 hours ago||
I would love to see a really competetive european model.
Pet_Ant 15 hours ago|
Sorry for the dumb question, but is there any useful non-trivial LLM that is open-source where you could bit reproducibly train it from sources?
segmondy 15 hours ago|
Yes, quite a bit, but you can lookup OlMo from allen.ai for starts
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