We're releasing the weights of Mistral Large 4

Posted by kuberwastaken 21 hours ago

We're releasing the weights of Mistral Large 4(mistral.ai)

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trildiegobm 17 hours ago||

I think the effect the page has when you move the mouse is brilliant; it’s really eye-catching and makes you want to use it.

novaRom 18 hours ago||

I have switched to Mistral free app just from US apps completely recently - it beats for me absolutely all alternatives:

ChatGPT - stopped using it like a year ago, it feels they deliberately made it ridiculously stupid (for fun?). I know, they were first, but today it's a joke.

Claude - tried it out of curiosity few times, but it's close to nothing when it's about non coding questions. I don't understand how anyone can like its gibberish answers?

Gemini - like many, switched to it like a year ago and it was best choice for daily usage. Nice, clear answers, never nonsense. Somehow they made it faster recently, but answers have become shorter, and it feels slightly stupid (but yet smarter than Claude or ChatGPT).

This was my motivation to try Mistral and I am absolutely amazed how good it is. It answers "in full", smart, search, research, full assessment, examples - looks very much like Pi/Opencode with subagents forking here and there (maybe OpenClaw is what they use?).

I am based in EU, so maybe others geographicly experience is different - again it' all no-subscription just free apps.

quixoticelixer- 13 hours ago||

I really like gemini but the app usage limits are pretty brutal just for chat.

rikima_ 7 hours ago||

despite my dislike of dario and anthropic, claude is still the most knowledgeable model to use out of the box and will give you a lot of actual relevant information while chatgpt always sounds like a blabbering drunkard that has zero clue

Surac 18 hours ago||

I am comparing Mistral and Claude for a company of programmer at the moment. Problem isn't so much the model but the harness and skills. Claude offers very good tools here. Mistral is behind. So a new model isn’t so interesting for me

isidor_nikolic 40 minutes ago||

We actually released a new harness recently - that works great. You can read more about it here https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe/issues/1301

Also if I can help in any way you can reach out - isidor@mistral.ai

InsideOutSanta 16 hours ago||

Unlike with Claude, you can use any harness you want with Mistral's models, including Claude Code.

crimsoneer 19 hours ago||

I added this to my weird little personal benchmark ( https://botbowlbench.com/) a couple of weeks ago, and it's...fine, but certainly not up to the best Chinese or US open weight models.

sauercrowd 18 hours ago|

they updated this model now from the preview, and according to the post seein gains across use-cases

enriquto 19 hours ago||

this "open weights" stuff is tantamount to shareware in the olden times... i hope it will soon be replaced by proper free software, where the actual training base is also given

moshegramovsky 12 hours ago|

You could always go work somewhere full time for free to help the cause of "proper free software". Or is entitlement to the work of others for free a one way street where you get it for free and expect others to pay you for your labor? I'm sure you can put a sign out for donations or live off the fat of the land.

tokai 21 hours ago||

Unrelated to Large 4, but why is it so hard to give money to Mistral? Now they finally have a model that might be worth using, but I cannot for my life figure out how to give them money and be allowed to use their model. Its really shouldn't take more than a couple of clicks to get to a payment option.

edit: I can see that I'm alone in thinking a company should communicate their business offers publicly, sorry for the question.

isidor_nikolic 39 minutes ago||

https://mistral.ai/pricing/ And then pick the pro plan

markild 21 hours ago|||

I was curious about this, as I’ve seen it so many times for multiple providers, especially Mistral and Google.

Clicked sign in, was presented with a sign up form, got a free account. From there could upgrade to pro plan or pay-as-you-go.

I agree it was perhaps too hidden, but calling it hard is not fair I think.

smodo 19 hours ago|||

I agree. I’m a customer out of principle (EU) but they make it hard to find out where to get a subscription and what that gets you. But their 18 eur per month offering is actually good with 255 eur worth of tokens included. Take care though: you need to create a specific kind of API key to avoid being charged for per token use besides your subscription.

This is on par with European stereotypes about French engineering so I’ll just go along with it :)

ctolsen 19 hours ago||

Is that "specific kind of API key" something that can be used in any agent, or is it Vibe CLI only?

smodo 17 hours ago||

You have to retrieve it through the Vibe interface (I used the CLI) and then you can use it with any harness.

InsideOutSanta 20 hours ago|||

> I cannot for my life figure out how to give them money

That's because the base offering is free. So you create an account, use it for free, and when you want to pay, click on "Upgrade to Pro."

I've seen some terrible B2B corporate websites that made it impossible to figure out how to give money to a company as a normal person, but I don't think this is one of them.

iSnow 14 hours ago|||

Fully agree, but I just asked Google Gemini to list Mistral's pricing and plans. Worked.

cl-coder 21 hours ago|||

Well the Mistral portal is honestly kind of confusing, considering that most people just want to enter CC details and get an API key.. But it's doable!

Muromec 20 hours ago||

CC details? We don't do that here, a need a QR code for ideal/wero/whatev, CC are not infra-sovereign enough

maeln 21 hours ago||

It's as easy as going to console.mistral.ai no ?

tokai 21 hours ago||

Maybe? Its impossible to tell. I'm not going to create a user in the hope that there is a subscription service in there somewhere.

satvikpendem 21 hours ago|||

> why is it so hard to give money to Mistral?

Maybe your definition of hard is much different than everyone else's...

dannyw 21 hours ago||||

What digital services do you pay for that don't require sign-up, or an account?

iamjackg 21 hours ago||||

I searched for "Mistral subscription" on Kagi and this was the first link: https://mistral.ai/pricing/

sisve 21 hours ago||||

You will not create a user, but want to pay?

There is a subscription in there. I'm paying.

embedding-shape 21 hours ago|||

What? It seems very doable for people who are interested in it, are you one of those people? Because it sure seems like you're trying your hardest to not find the answer yourself.

pyrale 20 hours ago|

> 1-trillion-parameter

I'm going to pass, but nice to know it's open now.

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