ChatGPT and Codex usage limits merging

Posted by Zariel 11 hours ago

ChatGPT and Codex usage limits merging(help.openai.com)

110 points | 52 comments

yurimo 4 hours ago|

I'm not going to lie, one big reason I as a researcher have been a customer of OpenAI is that on their Pro plan Pro-tier model in chat and codex are decoupled in terms of billing. Anthropic instead billed you fully. This was very useful for long mathematical reasoning for me and I could attach outputs of my simulations in the context.

I also recall reading the following: https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/anthropic-subscription...

I will see once this transition actually happens but if another provider offers more for less and a cost of switching is inherently low as most of project lives on the disk and not in cloud, then why not move? For my workflow pro astra has been very helpful, likely will be less so if it becomes far too expensive.

EbNar 1 hour ago||

Same. I'm in the plus plan, the chat and codex/work are decoupled there and I basically never use the latter. I'll keep my subscription until the merge happens and I'll jump ship (where, tho?) if it severely limits my usage. At least it seems like "instant" is going to stay unlimited.

californical 1 hour ago||

Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash. I can’t believe how far I’ve gone with only spending like $0.70 so far on credits

hokkos 18 minutes ago|||

When looking at the performance / price graph of artificial analysis, we can see that deepseek doesn't seem to have a better profile, just notably worse and slightly cheaper models, so in the future a chatgpt user will be better serve with switching to Luna or Terra that have better profile than deepseek.

alt-machine-ref 46 minutes ago||||

Deepseek is truly a dumdum model if you move your full work into it.

For small evaluation ds is impressive.

EbNar 1 hour ago||||

I can use DS and others through my Kagi sub. The thing about ChatGPT was the integrated environment/memory and the ability to create artifacts, which make it very useful for my job (teaching /researching). I don't use llms for coding, nor for agentic stuff.

znpy 53 minutes ago|||

> Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash.

I'm pleasantly surprised by grok models.

We use cursor at work and i'm at the $20/month plan.

I used to mostly use Gpt, composer and occasionally opus. But this month i maxed these models quota and I've been working with Grok 4.7 essentially non stop for the last two weeks.

Grok is fairly verbose and somewhat slower but in the end it does get the job done. I've done a surprising amount of work (planning, implementing, tool usage, analysis) on the base plan.

EbNar 32 minutes ago||

Giving money to Musk, tho... I'm not saying anybody shouldn't... I'm saying I'm not going to.

jarenmf 2 hours ago|||

Same for me, I have Claude and codex. And usage limits in codex are hit more often. what was keeping me from switching was only the chat was virtually not limited. I guess it's time to switch.

stelonix 3 hours ago||

That also has been my mode of operation. Plan + review on GPT web and implement with Codex. Bugs, logs, diffs etc are frequently sent to chat to find bugs etc. Seems they're going full agentic and also trying to close that profit gap.

furyofantares 5 hours ago||

It kills me to run out of claude code usage then my much more mundane usage, queries or web searches, is also cut off. Not doing that has been a big plus of chatgpt/codex in my mind.

LilBytes 3 hours ago||

Started using my other AI services for conversational work, I lean on my AI subscription with kagi.com a lot more now when it's not related (in whole, or in part) with my dev work.

cush 5 hours ago|||

I imagine they’ll keep a buffer of usage for mundane queries and just block deep research tasks/image generation/etc

1123581321 5 hours ago|||

You can tell Claude Code to detect and watch its usage. Have it refuse to work at 90-95%.

spike021 3 hours ago||

I just recently tried this exact thing with GPT in Codex for my Plus plan. It said it would keep an eye on usage and note down checkpoints, but it totally forgot to.

behringer 3 hours ago|||

I wonder if it makes more sense to cancel chatgpt pro, use the free version and stick with Claude code for development.

mkozlows 2 hours ago||

No, because the free-tier chat is much worse than the paid-tier chat. For personal use, I only use Claude right now (I've flipped in the past as models have gotten better at different rates), but I still keep OpenAI around because paid ChatGPT is worth it as a product to me.

naniwaduni 3 hours ago||

Frankly, they could take a slice of the current quota and reserve it for non-code use and it would simultaneously be a objective downgrade but still improve the user experience.

modeless 3 hours ago||

They ought to reserve a very small amount of quota exclusively for chatgpt so it doesn't just shut off if you exhaust your quota using codex. If they don't it would make more sense to keep codex and chatgpt usage on different accounts, which I'm sure OpenAI doesn't intend to incentivize.

rampatra 15 minutes ago||

Claude is already way superior in coding than Open AI atm. So coders are mostly using Claude.

With this change even non-coders will jump ship. Not sure why OpenAI is doing this now. They should improve their models now to match the competition.

mellosouls 2 minutes ago||

Claude is already way superior in coding than Open AI atm. So coders are mostly using Claude

Do you have figures for those claims? OpenAI is top notch for coding, certainly enough for me, I've never had a use for Claude and I'm a heavy coder - your claim of coding ability sounds very out of date in terms of suitability to the task.

retinaros 14 seconds ago||

for me Astra is the better model. Opus 5.5 is closed but when I need a slighter edge on a task usually Astra dominates

armchairhacker 29 minutes ago||

Everyone saying they should keep the limits separate: they should give users one limit and a setting to partition it how they want.

mellosouls 1 hour ago||

Well this sucks, but not unexpected.

I've been using Chat for all my Codex/Work tasks precisely because of the fact it didn't affect usage. Slightly less convenient and smooth but still directly against GitHub repos and other connectors so fantastic value in my Plus plan.

Another reason after the recent Pro 200/500 shenanigans to reevaluate my sub.

All good things and token-burning workarounds come to an end...

bomewish 40 minutes ago||

This isn’t good. I wish they would reverse it. It is easy to blow your codex usage — but then making it so CHAT is also busted is a shame. Please undo that.

epsteingpt 6 hours ago||

This will hurt people who use GPT-6-Pro which isn't easily available in codex and deep research.

Those were 2 flagship projects that will now make ChatGPT a lot less useful to people who pay.

We're in trouble. OAI wanted to raise $30B and raise $11B they are cutting costs.

lbreakjai 1 hour ago||

I'm not surprised. At work, we paired devs and non-devs together, and we're sharing subscriptions, since we tend to exclusively use one or the other. It's like when Copilot was billing per query rather than per token, always bound to disappear.

GordonS 10 hours ago|

I just got an email stating that "Chat and Work are coming together in one experience". Then, half way through it's the real headline: "A shared allowance for ChatGPT and Codex". Figured it was coming at some point...

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