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Posted by misswaterfairy 1 day ago

OccupySaaS(occupysaas.com)
515 points | 312 commentspage 5
chfritz 22 hours ago|
Seems more like revenge than revolution? Why not just move on?
dangond 1 day ago||
I really don't understand how you protest SaaS layoffs by providing open source alternatives free of charge?

Let's say you successfully create a drop-in equivalent to Salesforce that anyone can use for free, and sales teams decide they like you enough to do so (good luck). It takes off, and Salesforce goes completely under.

They can no longer afford to pay salaries in this hypothetical and everyone is let go. You have done the equivalent of laying off Salesforce's entire workforce. You've replaced a system that pays 15,000 engineer salaries with a system that pays no one and benefits other SaaS companies, no?

I really don't get it.

OccamsMirror 1 day ago||
Revenge. The answer is revenge. That's obviously driving motivation behind this.
jep888 1 day ago|||
Yeah, as much as I have real sympathy for those who've been impacted by the waves of layoffs over the past few years, I can't help but feel this level of vengeful bitterness isn't productive, or going to lead anyone anywhere good. It's uncomfortable to talk about, because layoffs certainly are not "fair", but I don't think people like working with people who are bitter. I don't think that's an attitude conducive to getting hired in the current environment, either.
akoboldfrying 1 day ago|||
I agree. With that said, I don't have a problem with this motivation. With that said, it would however have been even better overall to have made this a credible threat used to keep the original developers in their original jobs. As it stands, it's basically Mutually Assured Destruction after one side already pushed the button.
JasonFPath10 1 day ago|||
AI, like all technologies, is neutral and it's how we use it that makes it good or bad. Lately however people are perceiving more of the bad and it could be argued that layoffs are the biggest "use" for AI in recent years.

I suppose everybody is allowed to feel however they wish about such and it seems that this project is the culmination of some of these feelings.

dubeye 22 hours ago||
Evidence if it is needed that devs don’t really understand what differentiates the value of these products is not the code but the sales team
maxbond 1 day ago||
I would be happy to see these companies have their lunch eaten by open source but I don't understand who the audience is for this populist framing. Tech workers by and large wouldn't have supported the Occupy movement. The people sympathetic to Occupy generally don't like the tech industry and especially not AI. It's difficult to imagine serious teams deploying anticapitalist branded software within their enterprise. Who is this project for?
rdiddly 1 day ago|
I supported Occupy, but it was a losing effort, so the very mention of its name is discouraging.
pona-a 1 day ago||
Oh yes, protest your job being made redundant by AI, by paying AI vendors for the privilege of doing RLHF for them... Great plan!
not_your_mentat 23 hours ago||
Honest question. Who’s paying for the tokens and who is paying for the agents for security?
xiaoape 1 day ago||
Don't think the incentive is right. Who is going to do free protest forever? Real replacement takes time, take sales...
gosen 1 day ago||
it's a bit naive to think that you can make any harm to those corporations just by recreating their software :( they have much more than software (power, service, structure, organisation, contracts, etc.)

on the other hand building this stuff would be a nice portfolio project for those laid-off people and it might help them find a new job :)

realty_geek 1 day ago|
An open source SAAS for the many real estate website builders out there would be good.
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