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Posted by chalmovsky 14 hours ago

WTF Ubuntu?(chalmovsky.com)
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cheesy293 14 hours ago|
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gabucino 13 hours ago||
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mag7269 14 hours ago||
Where is he moving his shit to, then?
Bengalilol 14 hours ago|
Probably Debian.
stackghost 14 hours ago||
I suspect at this point that it’s a bunch of techno-bureaucrats at Canonical who are dogmatically sticking with their release cadence because artificial justifications. I have worked in big organizations where The Process, or The $place Way of Doing Things, has become so big that the bureaucracy takes on a life of its own and you end up having a whole team of people who just manage the process so that the people actually doing the work can maybe get something done.

I haven’t used Ubuntu for a few years now but I’m glad they’re getting this trial by fire now. This new era of software vulnerabilities is going to reduce the viability of a lot of smaller distros who more or less are entirely dependent on upstream for security and reliability. I sincerely wish the Ubuntu folks well but this is a sink or swim moment, and even if they sink it will be a net positive for Linux as a whole as weaker projects get picked off like the slowest antelope in the herd.

alex1138 13 hours ago|
Meanwhile, Debian lol

"If you're not paying, you're the product-" hey jerks, the analogy doesn't always work

stackghost 11 hours ago||
Not sure I understand what you're referring to.

Debian has a patch out, do they not?

alex1138 11 hours ago||
Sorry. I just meant, Debian's free as in beer. Ubuntu can be too but I thought there was more of a visible avenue to pay for it. And I just get annoyed with the 'you are the product' as a slogan because you get used plenty, exploitatively, even if you do pay for something. And many ethical things are in fact free

The fact Debian apparently does things properly just hammers it home

It was a lazy reply and I apologize

emrehan 13 hours ago||
> I'm moving all my servers off Ubuntu. Well justified.
h1bslop 13 hours ago||
you mean to say you didnt review the codebase before putting it in production? you get what you pay for
egorfine 12 hours ago||
They're too busy replacing something else with a Rust rewrite.
siwatanejo 14 hours ago||
Did Omarchy patch it? Anyone knows? (Not that I'm using it now, but I'm interested.)
mvlipwig 13 hours ago||
Arch patched the vulnerability, yes. Dotfiles don't change that.
hobo123 13 hours ago||
<animation of DHH in a race car driving bits and bytes to Linux machines>
samiv 13 hours ago||
What difference does it make? Version N (TEH LATEST) is considered secure until it isn't and the same show repeats with version N+1 but we already know it's also compromised.
j_w 13 hours ago|
The obvious difference is that version N-1 has a known vulnerability that could potentially be exploited, and everyone now knows about it.
samiv 13 hours ago||
And the version N+1 has exploits only the hackers know so as long as the general public is oblivious it's "secure".

Let's be clear the security vulns will never end and if you're running anything connected to the network eventually you'll get pwned.

jujube3 7 hours ago|
Ultimately, Ubuntu was never more than just a respin of Debian with brown wallpaper and shovelware added. It's time to let it go.
mococa 7 hours ago|
Plus snap & Amazon
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