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Posted by ceejayoz 3 hours ago

Schools that block Google’s A.I. will lose student access to its search engine(www.nytimes.com)
https://archive.ph/RuwsB

https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/products/educatio...

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TazeTSchnitzel 2 hours ago|
This comes off as comically evil. Disabling the AI summaries in search results is trivial, so them refusing to do so and blocking search entirely feels like a blatant attempt at coercion. Isn't it an abuse of monopoly power?
raegis 1 hour ago||
I'm sure they will rethink this when Trump's term ends.
nsoam 2 hours ago||
That would make sense if the AI summaries from Search were a different product.
jdiff 2 hours ago||
These summaries have been trivially bolted on, they're entirely self-contained, they can be easily turned off.
brainwad 1 hour ago|||
Possibly they want to evolve the feature to be _not_ bolted on.
Hamuko 2 hours ago||||
And sometimes they just fail to generate, while the search still shows the usual results.
nsoam 2 hours ago|||
Some results also have thumbnails. They could easily be turned off. That doesn’t mean thumbnails are a different product, or an abuse of monopoly power.
Brian_K_White 1 hour ago||
It does if the thumbnails are harmful and you're as market dominant as Google with the incalculable levers of coersion like turning off your email or drive which they spend 20 years actively doing everything possible to get everyone to use.
nsoam 48 minutes ago||
Whether the AI summaries are harmful to users of Search has no bearing on whether the AI summaries are an abuse of monopoly power.
Brian_K_White 31 minutes ago||
They are both, but one is the only reason the other matters.
Aboutplants 1 hour ago||
Oh no! What shall they do?
GolfPopper 1 hour ago|
Perhaps other big tech companies can also threaten the public with a good time?
shevy-java 1 hour ago||
Google now acts as a mafia. Why does a democracy allow rogue corporations blackmail schools and universities? That can only happen because a mafia runs the USA right now - otherwise that would have already shut down.

I think it is time to do the only logical thing here - and end Google. Nobody needs that monster company anyway.

OroPla 2 hours ago||
What do schools need Google for anyway? Had education deteriorated this much already?
ceejayoz 2 hours ago||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Classroom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_for_Education

MetalBreaksAndB 1 hour ago|||
Google is a pretty essential part of any assignment where independent research is a component.
goodmythical 39 minutes ago||
Yeah, you'd think by 2026 there'd be literally any other way to conduct research via the web.

Maybe even like some kind of aggregator that allows you to combine several other search engines' results.

That'd be really cool if that exi...oh, wait...

jdiff 2 hours ago|||
Images for a slideshow, citations for an essay, research for a project?
antiframe 2 hours ago||
Yes, when I was a student I never touched Google and don't understand why anyone would need it. /s

It's true, I used AltaVista and Yahoo! search because Google didn't exist yet.

Brian_K_White 1 hour ago||
kagi should swoop in and offer some sort of deal.

Get people used to search without ads or influence or data collection or any incentive other than getting you what you asked for as honestly as possible.

Or maybe more pointedly, get them to even become aware of the difference between home and school, or everyone else's computers and their own.

padge01 1 hour ago||
win-win
settsu 1 hour ago||
Like, what are we even doing as a society?
godshatter 1 hour ago||
Google really is an evil, enshittified company now. I see it every day when I'm on YouTube with an ad-blocker. "Experiencing interruptions?" Yeah, Google, thanks for fucking with me. If you don't want me viewing your videos, don't make them accessible on the standard protocols.

There are a host of other search engines. I use search.brave.com myself (after leta.mullvad.com was decommissioned).

Students will learn about other search engines, and about how corporations are not your friends. Both good lessons to learn.

31337Logic 1 hour ago||
Wikipedia > Google Why on earth did we let that diseased corporation into our classrooms in the first place?!
noslenwerdna 1 hour ago|
Wow, blatant monopoly behavior
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