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Posted by infwhispers 11 hours ago

Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member classifier(8rank.ai)
516 points | 302 commentspage 2
zenocon 2 hours ago|
this is completely wild. i use a mac for my personal computer, but also a mac for work. i ran this on my personal and noticed it was picking up slack chans i participate in often for work. i don't use slack on my personal computer. it has combined both knowledge graphs between the two computers (obviously through the apple platform) once it figured out i am the same person on both laptops. i share very little between the two laptops other than occasionally forwarding an email from a work computer to personal and vice-versa and having the same first/last name on both.

i think this is even more concerning now that i know it is building this graph in a distributed manner across multiple devices.

fyi: slack shows up as com.tinyspeck.chatlyio - it is the internal bundle identifier (Bundle ID) for the official Slack iOS app on Apple devices.

for those that complain about punctuation -- i skip it b/c i have numbness in the left hand due to an injury.

ethansinjin 1 hour ago|
Are you signed into the same iCloud account on both laptops? If not I don’t see how they could reliably combine the graphs
joshAg 1 hour ago||
It is really hard to get through articles with prose this bad. I don't know if it's because of LLM help or lack of practice, but man i have tried 3 times now to get through it and just can't.
jftuga 5 hours ago||
I have a "flock" script that locks downs files that I do not want changed except for when I persoanlly "funlock" it.

It does the last 4 commands:

    cd ~/Library
    rm -rf IntelligencePlatform
    touch IntelligencePlatform
    xattr -w com.flock.mode 444 IntelligencePlatform
    chown root:wheel IntelligencePlatform
    chmod 444 IntelligencePlatform
    chflags schg IntelligencePlatform
bayganyo 18 minutes ago|
Good call; just applied this myself. What other files do you lock down?
jftuga 9 seconds ago||
* .gitconfig * .claude/settings.json (same for codex) * .zprofile and .zshrc * .ssh/config and id_ed25519*
cwoolfe 3 hours ago||
Since Apple goes through the trouble of invading my privacy like this, I would at least expect "Hey Siri, call mom" to do the right thing. But it does not. Either it calls the wrong person or asks me which of two particular number or email to use for FaceTime, when both lead to the same correct person anyway..so why bother asking? Apple makes the best hardware but its disappointing to see their software consistently fall short.
ianmf 3 hours ago|
I have been using "Hey Siri, call my {mom, dad,wife}" with zero issues for years now.
adsharma 2 hours ago||
All of this seems to be using sqlite, not KuzuDB derived tech that apple acquired about a year ago.

https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/news/waterloo-based-graph-database-s...

code_biologist 10 hours ago||
Horrifying, but also really interesting as a student of schema design, especially for probabilistic or inferential processes, and graph data.
gattilorenz 10 hours ago||
Woah. Still on Sequoia with no intention to upgrade, but maybe the next laptop runs Linux.
veonik 10 hours ago||
I'm on Sequoia. Check out ~/Library/IntelligencePlatform
rustyhancock 8 hours ago||
It might depend on your needs and priorities, GhostBSD is a great option for people who like something more like Mac.

It's just a tuned FreeBSD distro using Mate.

jdiff 4 hours ago||
What similarities do you find between macOS and GhostBSD? The Mate desktop by itself isn't super mac-like.

I also see it defaults to the growing pile of bugs known as XLibre.

rustyhancock 2 hours ago||
The similarity is predominantly between the userland. (The Freebsd kernel and XNU is mostly historical as far as I know)

A typical Linux user will be used to GNU conventions and probably have a lot of annoyances.

GhostBSD is simply a beginner friendly distro of FreeBSD.

In one line both MacOS users and BSD broadly will squirm at the likes of things like `ls src/ -la`

But honestly, I was interdicting in the idea that Linux is the only alternative really.

lproven 7 hours ago||
Saddened but not surprised.

This makes me glad. I do not own or use an iPhone. I have 2 iPads, one on iOS 9 and one on iOS 17, and neither can be updated. Neither talks to my email or anything: they're ebook readers, basically. Nobody in my immediate family uses iPhones either, nor Apple Watches or Apple TV or any of that.

I do not use Apple's App or Music stores, or their email, or calendar, or notes, or web browser, or even the text editor. I don't use Siri. I don't have a payment method on my 30Y old Apple account.

My email goes through Thunderbird, chat through Ferdium, web via Firefox. Office work is in Panwriter and occasionally LibreOffice.

I suspect, but don't know, that Apple doesn't know much about me and I suspect I wouldn't care about what it did.

It's still possible to use a Mac as a prettier Linux box, and that's what I do. I have no OS newer than macOS 15 and I don't even use Homebrew to extend that.

dfc 6 hours ago|
> I suspect, but don't know, that Apple doesn't know much about me and I suspect I wouldn't care about what it did.

I used to have similar thoughts. But then i realized everyone was emailing me from Gmail, sending me evites, posting pictures of events I attended but didn't RSVP to social media, etc. If you live in a moderately populated city in a western economy these apps know a ton about you. You should not give up your digital hygiene but don't lie to yourself and pretend that your friends and family are not feeding your data to the beast.

monarchwadia 4 hours ago||
It wasn't that the AI writing style was a turn-off.

It's that AI writing tends to be dense and difficult to really parse, for humans.

Something about the writing style does not sit well with how my mind works. My mind cannot parse it very well.

You could try asking it to write in Simplified Technical English (STE100), which ends up being easier to understand for humans. Or, at least for me.

rubyfan 9 hours ago|
How does one disable this?
mmooss 6 hours ago||
I expected the article to address that. Maybe it's obvious?:

Disable the daemons, delete the directory, lock down permissions to the database files / directory, lock down the daemons' permissions, delete the daemons, ...

I'm not recommending those things - I don't know what the consequence is for the system - but that's where I'd start.

rbn3 9 hours ago|||
you can't
verytrivial 9 hours ago|||
"It's for you own good. It would be harmful to disable it. And you don't understand it so you shouldn't have an opinion. I trust Apple to do this safely, even if I don't want whatever this is."

Is how I'm generally greeted when I ask this sort of question.

Turn off your Mac and use a different operating system. Because it doesn't matter how you disable this feature in isolation. It is merely the current projection of Apple's opinion of its relationship with you. It's a hydra and you are going to lose the fight.

bel8 8 hours ago||
or "grandma needs this to just work, Apple knows better"
kibwen 9 hours ago||
By using an OS that doesn't view you as cattle to be milked and eventually sent to the slaughterhouse.
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