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Posted by infwhispers 12 hours ago

Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member classifier(8rank.ai)
518 points | 304 commentspage 3
jwilcoxson 5 hours ago|
Maybe the technical details weren’t available, but I thought that we already knew this was a thing? I was aware that my Mac and iPhone were indexing various sources like this on device for Siri.
procaryote 4 hours ago|
But it does this even when siri is disabled
axismundi 10 hours ago||
What about iphones?
waiwai933 6 hours ago||
Is this a way to query this from the command line? I'd rather not give a random piece of software deliberate access to personal data...
infwhispers 5 hours ago|
It is a sqlite db, so you can load it with that
hmokiguess 6 hours ago||
I have a few questions:

Is it unencrypted and accessible by other applications without elevated permissions?

Can I modify it at will and does it persist if so?

infwhispers 5 hours ago|
It is in plaintext, but protected by TCC (so, only privileged apps / trusted by you can). Not sure about persistence. I believe it is rewritten periodically, possibly ignoring your edits
mfro 6 hours ago||
Decent work, if unreadable. I’ve disabled Apple Intelligence now.
procaryote 3 hours ago||
It will still collect this data.

Source: have never had Apple Intelligence enabled, have these files anyway

IAmGraydon 1 hour ago||
Someone else said it and I’ll echo it. This is invasive and cannot be disabled by disabling Apple Intelligence.
sneak 3 hours ago||
Previously discussed in 2023: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37521306
titzer 7 hours ago||
Stallman being upset about not having the source to printer drivers seems quaint these days.

This is exactly why we should not have closed source anything at the bottom.

teekert 2 hours ago||
Why is my computer so slow? Idk, maybe it's making a map of your socialsphere. Yeah right! Right?

Apple doesn't need you to not buy ram to make it work for them. Joke's on Sam.

ig-88ms 9 hours ago||
If Microsoft didn't this, this wouldn't be interesting research, but a cause for uproar. And yes, I know they're probably already doing it, but in the cloud.

Apple makes money of your data as does anyone else. The just use your compute and energy for it too and convinced everyone that was privacy.

IAmGraydon 1 hour ago|
I’ve often wondered if Windows 11 might do the same thing. Surely, any low Apple has stooped to, Microsoft has stooped to as well.
arcanemachiner 10 hours ago|
On a long enough timeline, all closed-source software turns into spyware.
MonkeyClub 7 hours ago|
That’s a Law; is it christened yet, or should we name it ArcaneMachiner’s Law?
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