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Posted by krthr 4 hours ago

Person of Interest(krthr.co)
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Hard_Space 1 hour ago|
I've been re-watching Person of Interest intermittently over the summer and also intended to post about the show's surprising prescience. Much as I love the show, it could use a fan edit to cut out the acres of NCIS-style case-of-the-week that plagues the first two seasons, to bring it into a Mr.Robot-style mini-series.

So yes, you really do have to slog through nearly 50 templated 'cases' before the backstory really sets in, and Michael Emerson becomes both the chilling and warm heart of the show.

Like others here, I have been surprised how well it holds up, with several of the episodes dealing with topics that are now current but were pretty much absurd at time of transmission.

mvdwoord 1 hour ago||
I am currently in the middle of binging this series in the evenings. At first I took the "high-episode-number, cookie cutter serial crime drama" as someone described here for granted. Like many others sometimes this is just what I crave to round off my day. Mindless somewhat violent unrealistic protagonists, crazy storylines... but about two seasons in, I noticed a remarkably deep plot about AI which is wonderfully apt in this day and age. The dialogues remain a bit comical, and the technical hacking details often make no sense, but it was an unexpected and very welcome layer to the story.
aziis98 1 hour ago||
I started doing a rewatch a few weeks ago xD

Seeing it now the show also has some pretty fun foreshadowing of llm technology like an episode where they anticipate the idea of "ssd streaming" (running a model slower when you don't have enough memory to fit it all at once), at least this is how I interpreted it to make the connection.

And there are many others connections that now can be made thinking about llms vs the machine

Oh and they also anticipated the openai incident where models started using random stuff as external persistent memory across "sessions"

bitwize 28 minutes ago|
In Vernor Vinge's "True Names" there is a character in the MC's cabal of hackers who does not appear in person in the virtual space, but their presence is felt there via messages that trickle in very slowly on a virtual teletype machine. After some speculation that it might be the vanguard of an alien invasion, it turns out to be a CIA AI that requires much more processing time to think than would allow it to carry on real-time conversation.
conqrr 1 hour ago||
One of the best shows I ever seen. Criminally underrated. Always crosses my mind when someone mentions this phrase. Looking at the title, I was hoping it'd be about the show and surprisingly it is.
feearent 1 hour ago|
I just had this same experience too. Glad that it's a PoI thread.
eclectric 2 hours ago||
Completed my third rewatch recent. The music really sells the emotion like no other. The combination of Finch, as the ultimate hacker, and Reese, as the soldier, is my vote for greatest fictional characters despite the existence of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.
gcanyon 2 hours ago||
The two scenes that really stuck with me:

   1. When Finch is out playing hide and seek with the machine.
   2. When the machine is apologizing to Finch, telling him that it did its best.
DonHopkins 1 hour ago|
3. Walking around handcuffed to a heavy duty briefcase full of RAM storing a compressed AI and swinging it around as a shield to stop bullets and bonk people on the head.
aziis98 1 hour ago||
It is absurd how this kind of anticipated ssd streaming
hliyan 2 hours ago||
I remember one scene that explains why the system cannot tell you anything beyond the identify of a person involved: the explanation was that there was system logic involved (e.g. a gas station stop correlating with a dead drop), but the creator encrypted the system. I always wondered why they didn't go with "it's a large machine learning model trained on a massive amount of data; it can stochastically alert you to heightened risk, but it can't tell you why, or judge who is victim and who is perpetrator".
chuckadams 1 hour ago||
The show goes on to explain that it does give more detailed information to the government, that the numbers were a backdoor that the creator put in to leak the information of people it deemed "not important", and that it doesn't provide any more context in order to continue escaping detection. But we eventually find it's self-aware enough to want to escape its limitations, and pulls a Neuromancer by getting the main characters in contact with Root.
bananzamba 1 hour ago|||
As far as I remember only outputting a SSN was a security measure so that users of the machine can't just arrest the perp without any investigation
DrewADesign 1 hour ago||
Because you would have heard the full explanation, while most viewers would have heard “it's a large machine learning model trai::click:: (Simpson’s Theme).” Then some nerds online would have torn the explanation apart for some minuscule, likely imaginary inconsistency. Most shows have neither the budget nor the audience to take the Star Trek approach.
dartf 53 minutes ago||
This is so crazy to see, as I've just recently started watching it as well (for the first time)
swiftcoder 4 hours ago||
I also started watching this for the first time this summer, and it holds up remarkably well
comrade1234 4 hours ago|
I enjoyed this show a lot and I was looking forward to westworld as a continuation of the story - I wanted to see what Nolan would do with the story when the AIs are corporeal, but ultimately westworld was a disappointment, spending too much of the story in the fantasy world.
cluckindan 3 hours ago||
Did you watch all four seasons?
sam_lowry_ 3 hours ago||
Should have stopped at 1st.
croes 3 hours ago||
I liked the more sci-fi heavy later seasons
jrm4 3 hours ago||
What?

Just your last clause was a weird one, if you do watch all four seasons. This is a tiny bit of a spoiler, but the problem was closely related to what you say. They didn't spend much time AT all in the "transition" to an AI infested world, but instead, well, skipped A LOT.

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