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Posted by josephljohnston 1 hour ago

Anthropic IPO(ipo.anthropic.com)
139 points | 149 commentspage 3
esskay 50 minutes ago|
Presumably this'll be like the spacex one - high price, instant drop and a load of amateur investors wondering why they just lost a ton of money.
abijahkaj 28 minutes ago||
I'm convinced that they are the best right now, but their videos are making me cringe a bit on the whole "culture" thing, feels like a star wars episode
mynti 37 minutes ago||
"Our employees' use of Claude has grown more than 250times between January and September of 2026.Together, these explain why our revenue per employee has grown more than 4.5x."

Ouch. So practically all of that Claude use is just busy work, I guess

tzal3x 1 hour ago||
Here comes the new qwen model announcement.
Metacelsus 53 minutes ago||
All I can see is that the Petri dish on their letter shows uneven colony distribution, someone needs to work on their plating technique!
cloudie78 24 minutes ago||
No moat.

Exit liquidity, time to pay off all those private capital loans.

Jgrubb 1 hour ago||
What an interesting flood of negative comments with nothing to say. This company has completely changed my career.

If AI went away tomorrow I would find a new line of work because artisanally handcrafting code is the most boring use of my time in the entire world.

origini 37 minutes ago||
I like writing code, but seeing my ideas visualized after an hour is more fun than writing code.

And even if AI is disappearing tomorrow and not progressing any further, i see already myself living on a farm with cheap energy (pre invest into solar and batterie) and having my small AI datacenter in basement and running multiply fable level agents 24/7 for different things.

Genie is out of the bottle.

FacZap 21 minutes ago|||
Not hating; just geniunely curious. Why did you get into this career if writing code is/was the " most boring use of my time in the entire world"?
nehal3m 3 minutes ago||
My guess would be lots of money.
lelanthran 8 minutes ago|||
> If AI went away tomorrow I would find a new line of work because artisanally handcrafting code is the most boring use of my time in the entire world.

I too, since I was a child, aspired to be a babysitter.

rtp4me 44 minutes ago|||
Welcome to HN - the land of the miserable
CurbStomper5 54 minutes ago||
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steveBK123 1 hour ago||
Quoting a tweet I saw yesterday but..

Biopharma CEO "This presentation contains forward-looking statements, as a result of risks and uncertainties..."

AI/Tech CEO "We will cure all diseases in less than 10 years"

Like look I get it, this is truly impressive tech, but can we at least be a little more sober?

mxschumacher 34 minutes ago|
it's surprising that the SEC and other regulatory agencies don't intervene on these statements. Not to mention that "cure cancer" is more of a slogan in the sense that cancer comes in countless families and varieties, I don't doubt that progress is possible but to say that "all cancers will be cured in the near future" seems outrageously aggressive / misleading
programjames 5 minutes ago|||
What do you think it would take to cure all cancers, and what capabilities do you think AI will have within the next decade? Need I remind you that, in the span of five years, AI went from not being able to add to solving Millenium Prize problems?

What would it take for AI to not replicate that in biology? Either curing cancer has to be a much harder problem, which is doubtful given targeted treatments like immunotherapy humans have already stumbled across, or AI progress has to slow down massively, which is doubtful given all the trends say it is speeding up.

steveBK123 9 minutes ago|||
They likely will once they are public, though it's surprising it is tolerated even at this phase.

Then again orange man president and SpaceX is saying some pretty bonkers stuff.

Yajirobe 1 hour ago||
Will this, together with Jensen’s affairs, finally pop the AI bubble?
marginalia_nu 54 minutes ago||
Plausibly part of the chain of events, unlikely to be a cause in itself. Nothing pops because of an underperforming IPO.

Though Anthropic's IPO flopping might affect the valuation of OpenAI, which further inhibits their ability to raise additional funds (which they're already been struggling with). Given the incestuous financing in AI any major actor in the AI space defaulting could bring a lot of companies with it.

As a side note, regardless of outcome, Anthropic IPO:ing is the first step in the inexorable march toward profit maximization and enshittification. You all better be ready with your verification cans.

mhitza 12 minutes ago||
With Anthropic's IPO (and I was looking forward for OpenAI as well) there should be some hope for some rationality to come back into the sector.

If the bubble bursts, better now than much later. The industry stance that's been ongoing "AI, at all costs" has been such a market and economic pressure on the everyday worker that even a small value deflation I deem necessary.

BadBadJellyBean 1 hour ago|||
We can only hope.
ddxv 17 minutes ago|||
I would guess Jensen's affairs are a huge boon to the IPO price. Money freed up to move from Nvidia to Anthropic. Also Anthropic loses one of it's main idealogical opponents
srgb_vs_cmyk 1 hour ago|||
Only if issued stock is met with very low demand. Otherwise, we need to wait for OpenAI IPO or Oracle/CoreWeave going under.
simianwords 7 minutes ago||
Oh come on. Jensen affair = AI bubble pops? New Ed Zitron larp..

Here's an older compilation of some of the bubble theories in HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50313358

p-e-w 1 hour ago|
$23 billion quarterly net loss.

Hundreds of billions in future liabilities.

IPO valuation above $1 trillion.

The lunatics are running the asylum.

juliie 1 hour ago||
To be fair, that loss includes over $20b from instruments like convertible notes. They're not equity, so the increase in their value has to be reported as a loss. But in the context of this IPO, they will behave like equity, and just turn into stock. That's not money anthropic will pay, it will just dilute investors during IPO.

Reporting an increase in the value of the company as a loss is weird, but they have to do it. this is a case where adjusted earnings give a better idea of how the business is going.

the_duke 51 minutes ago|||
As the page says, almost 22bn of that is a book loss due to share price increase.

So their loss is actually small compared to revenue.

epolanski 44 minutes ago|||
And buying too!
A_D_E_P_T 1 hour ago|||
I unironically believe that bitcoin -- and, downstream, the memestock -- have everything to do with this.

Old-school fundamentals are laughed at or handwaved away. FOMO rules the day. "If Anthropic is the first to AGI, it'll take over every industry and go to the moon!"

dotancohen 58 minutes ago|||
Nobody is buying these companies because they believe that the company is valuable. They are buying these stocks because they believe that the stock may be more valuable tomorrow than it is today. Whatever the company behind the stock does or does not do, really doesn't matter. AI glitters like gold today.

Yet to be seen if it tarnishes.

datakan 36 minutes ago||||
>"If Anthropic is the first to AGI, it'll take over every industry and go to the moon!"

Meanwhile the hyper advanced software company's shitty electron app still flickers so bad on a high refresh monitor that it should require an epilepsy warning. I'll never understand the love for Anthropic, they legitimately have the worst software I have used outside of Microsoft.

p-e-w 1 hour ago|||
Sure, and if it isn’t, investors just flushed a freight train loaded with dollar bills down the world’s largest toilet.
mxschumacher 59 minutes ago||
the question is: who will rise in the ashes of the bust, in a world of abundant compute availability and an upgraded power system?
Avicebron 34 minutes ago||
Do we have an upgraded power system? I'm all for reforming our electrical infrastructure, but what I'm hearing is that we've got creaking infrastructure and the "supplement" is huge generators towed outside the datacenter...
mxschumacher 32 minutes ago||
gigantic order books for gas turbines and power grid infra, unless projects get cancelled, massive additional capacity is coming, yes.
HeavyStorm 1 hour ago|||
What the hell is 15% adjusted margin? Lots of mathmagic there I guess...
Kwpolska 58 minutes ago||
The real number with standard accounting rules is a loss of $567 million (-3% operating margin). But they're adding in "Stock-based compensation expense" (~$1B) and "Non-cash charitable contributions" (~$2B), and they end up with a profit of $2.5 billion.
yorwba 40 minutes ago||
If you want to know whether the business is hemorrhaging money and will soon be bankrupt, excluding funny money they printed at no cost to themselves is perfectly sensible. Of course for the IPO investors, who're being asked to buy that funny money for real cash, it's a bit concerning if they give away so much of it to other people for less.
lofaszvanitt 1 hour ago||
It's going to skyrocket. :DDD
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