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Posted by voxleone 12 hours ago

Doomsday: Friday, 13 November, A.D. 2026 (1960)(www.science.org)
436 points | 301 commentspage 3
thenthenthen 8 hours ago|
Checking in!
wry_discontent 7 hours ago||
We can only hope.
HardCodedBias 9 hours ago||
These scumbags helped to destroy the West through demographic collapse.

Villains of the first order!

xpuente 8 hours ago||
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docusor_ceo 10 hours ago||
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esher 9 hours ago||
I posted this yesterday. 4 points. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50465582
jankyxenon 9 hours ago||
That’s one day too early.
FergusArgyll 6 hours ago||
There's still 11 1/2 hours left
semiquaver 9 hours ago||
Holy cow, quit whining in both threads. Luck of the draw, buddy.
teekert 11 hours ago||
As a biologist, in year 1 you learn why the world is not overgrown with bacteria that double every 30 mins. Restrictions. From there follow niches, evolution through natural selection on population levels working on existing variation and more slowly on new variation. Evolutionary arms races, etc.

Anyway, the question: "Why is there no Darwinian devil?" Is a nice starter for starting to understand the enormous variation found in our biosphere. Of course, we are as close to a Darwinian devil as any species ever came because we make our own niche by tearing other's down. Resistance is futile. Of course, tearing other's down will also tear our own niche down because they are all connected, at least, our old niche is. Can we build a new one fast enough? Or should we stop tearing our niche down?

hham 11 hours ago|
Agree. Humans are atypically successful because we don't simply adapt to existing environments... we actively "transform" (destroy) environments to suit ourselves.
corroclaro 11 hours ago||
I have a feeling that's possibly just a property of life itself, reshaping its environment to maximize its ability to continue. Even simple one cell organisms cluster together to form biofilms to better survive in their niche.
TheOtherHobbes 10 hours ago|||
It's a question of degree. Humans are uniquely adaptable, but only on small/medium scales.

We don't have the evolutionary intelligence to manage a planetary ecosystem without destroying it through overconsumption.

Intelligence is partly about scope. The smarter you are, the wider your predictive horizon.

Humans are semi-smart - good at small/medium problems, not smart enough to understand, build and maintain very complex multimodal systems with many moving parts.

geraldwhen 10 hours ago||
Citation needed? Everything seems fine currently.
bobson381 6 hours ago|||
See Tainter's work on the collapse of complex systems, and watch this nice video from B. Sid Smith. [0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPB2u8EzL8

t0mpr1c3 10 hours ago||||
+1.5°C
drinkinghorn 9 hours ago|||
We are literally and figuratively shitting where we eat on a global scale.

Ecosystems we dependon for survival are shrinking, becoming I hospitable to life or straight up disappearing.

titzer 10 hours ago|||
Humans are the only species I know of that goes out of its way to eradicate other species they find annoying, particularly without understanding said species' role in the ecosystem. And we're definitely the only species that has an economic system that rewards superorganisms that accidentally poison the entire ecosystem and then lie about it.
teekert 10 hours ago||
If you watch something like "Life on our planet", there have been species that basically hunted the seas empty of their food sources and then died out, so we're not that unique in that respect, but we are extremely efficient about it.
bobson381 10 hours ago||
bc we accessed oil
makerofthings 11 hours ago||
I think we'd start to hit problems before the population got to infinity. Half infinity or even half of half of infinity would be a real issue.
Cthulhu_ 11 hours ago|
I'm no mathematician but isn't half of infinity still infinity? (or is that the joke?)
krm01 1 hour ago||
Reminds me of the extrapolated predictions based on AI progress everyone is making.
semiquaver 9 hours ago|
> Under conditions which come close to being paradise—that is, no environmental hazards, unlimited food supply, and no detrimental interaction between elements—the fate of a biological population as a whole is completely determined at all times by reference to the two fundamental properties of an individual element: its fertility and its mortality.

(Emphasis mine)

The unreality of frictionless perfectly spherical cows strikes again...

Also, check out that lovely vintage emdash use!

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