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Posted by bookofjoe 9 hours ago

Minnesota guitarist's "palmfrets" invention strikes a new chord(www.echopress.com)
https://palmfrets.com/
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bookofjoe 9 hours ago|
https://unwall.app/www.echopress.com/business/minnesota-guit...
temporallobe 53 minutes ago|
Thanks. This site has an aggressively annoying paywall.
hmokiguess 1 hour ago||
Please add a B bender to it and it will be the best thing ever.
defart 7 hours ago||
Not sure what benefit this gives you at all, since (for me at least) id rather be able to 'unlock' extra tones deeper than the open string. Being able to do 3 frets on the reverse side of the guitar doesn't bring that much.

Especially doesnt bring much that couldn't be achieved with an alternate tuning.

Nothing against it, it just seems a pretty contrived invention.

tyrust 2 hours ago||
> rather be able to 'unlock' extra tones deeper than the open string

Doesn't down-tuning and then using one of these accomplish that?

deckar01 6 hours ago|||
I use some chord fingerings that leave the low E and A strings open and form the rest of the chord with the D, G, and B strings. Chords with intervals that start in the second octave sound really dreamy and are easy to play. There is no way to extend that to more than two bass notes without something like this. Four bass notes open up much more interesting chord progressions.
hateful 4 hours ago||
"But it goes up to G" "Can't you just CAPO the third fret?" "...it goes up to G"

Not to discredit the invention, it's very cool indeed.

tashi 7 hours ago||
It could open up new possibilities for the right musicians, I think, the way Stevie Wonder can do so much more with his chromatic harmonica. I'm a little worried about changing the ergonomics of an instrument that's already trying to destroy your hands if you play it just a little bit wrong for enough hours, but time will tell.
rc5150 5 hours ago|
"instrument that's already trying to destroy your hands if you play it just a little bit wrong"

that's not the fault of the instrument, that's your fault.

mannyv 10 minutes ago||
So instead of muting or ignoring your top strings you're going to play them because now you can fret them with your palm.
alexjplant 8 hours ago||
The Steinberger TransTrem [1] similarly allows changing pitch at the bridge. Buck Dharma and EVH used it to great effect. It's about as simple as a design as it can be but calibrating it is a process and guitarists aren't exactly a group known for their engineering prowess or progressive thinking (compared to bassists or keys players, for instance) so it never achieved critical mass. This seems like an even simpler system so perhaps it'll gain greater traction.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransTrem

threetonesun 4 hours ago|
TransTrem doesn't allow for single string pitch changes though, it's more of a solution to easy alternate tunings when you have a whammy bar.

A simpler solution is probably using a crossover or synth-pickup so you can split the bass notes to a pitch-shift pedal.

xcf_seetan 8 hours ago||
He had to remove the bridge pickup... no good for me.
bryanlarsen 7 hours ago||
There is a less capable model (unifret) that doesn't require moving the pickups or adding much dampening to the soundboard.
dfxm12 4 hours ago||
All the frets past 18, too.
rootedbox 1 hour ago||
for people with small hands who can't reach..
maxwells-daemon 6 hours ago||
I wonder if you could make a quarter-tone palmfret to let you play microtones on a standard fretboard, or does the intonation not work out like that?
joshlemer 6 hours ago|
It couldn't add a quarter tone between each semitone on the guitar, it looks like it's just duplicating the lowest 2 or 3 frets on the bridge side.
maxwells-daemon 6 hours ago||
Right, but I'm thinking if you added a quarter-tone fret on the palm side, if you hold that down and also fret a different note, you'd get a string shortened to one quarter-tone above the fretted note, right?
npostavs 5 hours ago||
It doesn't work, because the length you need to shorten to achieve a quarter-tone changes depending on which fret is is use (specifically, it would be 24th root of the length starting from the current fret). So if you were fretting in first position, the palm fret would give you roughly a semi-tone (slightly more), and if you were fretting in higher positions, it would be more than that. With some very careful planning, you could maybe use the spots that give you 3/4 or 5/4 tones.
maxwells-daemon 3 hours ago||
Ah, shucks, that makes sense. I guess I should have remembered that's why the frets get closer together as you go up the neck!
sollewitt 8 hours ago|
Undjentlemanly
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